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	<title>Comments on: Talk With Yahoo Music Execs on the Fate of DRM</title>
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		<title>By: ::lemonup:: &#187; Yahoo’s New Media Device</title>
		<link>http://www.talkcrunch.com/2007/01/10/talk-with-yahoo-music-execs-on-the-fate-of-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-3105</link>
		<dc:creator>::lemonup:: &#187; Yahoo’s New Media Device</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 18:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yahoo&#8217;s Ian Rogers (listen to my interview with Ian Rogers here) is touting the device and the Yahoo subscription plan v. downloadable music. He does make one off-putting remark at the end of his post when he suggests that iPod users only have pirated music on their iPods: For those of you about to complain about the $12/month to get unlimited tracks (like, um, Steve Jobs), check yourself before you riggity wreck yourself. Labels and artists get paid for every radio play and every Yahoo! Music download to the Sansa Connect, whereas we all know iPods are mostly full of not-paid-for MP3s. At Yahoo! would like to help maintain a healthy music business, compensating labels and artists at a fair price to consumers. The labels and the consumers have been pretty far apart in this negotiation and we think we’re doing a damn fine job striking a balance between the two with the rich feature set Sansa Connect and reasonable monthly price of Yahoo! Music Unlimited. We hope you think so, too. If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem, right? (emphasis added) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yahoo&#8217;s Ian Rogers (listen to my interview with Ian Rogers here) is touting the device and the Yahoo subscription plan v. downloadable music. He does make one off-putting remark at the end of his post when he suggests that iPod users only have pirated music on their iPods: For those of you about to complain about the $12/month to get unlimited tracks (like, um, Steve Jobs), check yourself before you riggity wreck yourself. Labels and artists get paid for every radio play and every Yahoo! Music download to the Sansa Connect, whereas we all know iPods are mostly full of not-paid-for MP3s. At Yahoo! would like to help maintain a healthy music business, compensating labels and artists at a fair price to consumers. The labels and the consumers have been pretty far apart in this negotiation and we think we’re doing a damn fine job striking a balance between the two with the rich feature set Sansa Connect and reasonable monthly price of Yahoo! Music Unlimited. We hope you think so, too. If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem, right? (emphasis added) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; Yahooの新しいメディアデバイス</title>
		<link>http://www.talkcrunch.com/2007/01/10/talk-with-yahoo-music-execs-on-the-fate-of-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-3103</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; Yahooの新しいメディアデバイス</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] YahooはSanDisk Sansa Connectという新しいwifi メディアデバイスを発表した。これはYahoo Music ( Yahoo Musicの概要とライバルとの比較（英語記事）参照)がすぐに聞けるほかにユーザーのFlickrアカウントとも同期する。これでYahooは Appleのますます拡張を続けるiPod帝国やMicrosoftのZuneミュージック (そして近く始まる携帯)デバイスに対抗できる足がかりを得た。Sansa Connectは価格250ドルで4 GBのメモリと2.2インチの(小さい) スクリーンがついてくる。定額購読契約で無期限に毎月15ドルを払い続ける気のあるユーザーなら、膨大なライブラリを聞けるのでこういうデバイスを好むかもしれない。100万曲以上あるYahooの全音楽コレクションをポータブルなデバイスで聞けるというのは確かに魅力がある。しかしDRMの壁が崩れ落ちつつある現在、多くのユーザーにとって制約なしに楽曲を所有できるほうが、定額購読を続けるというアプローチより魅力だろう。YahooのIan Rogers(私のIan Rogersインタビューはここに)はダウンロード販売を比較してYahooの定額プランとこのデバイスの優位を売り込んでいた。Ianはこのインタビューの最後に「iPodのユーザーが持っているのは違法な海賊版の楽曲ばかりだ」という、いささかがっかりさせるような発言をした。ほとんど無限の曲が聞ける代償に月12ドルを払うことに文句があるヤツがいる（スティーブ・ジョブズとか）ようだが、バカを言ってないで自分の頭をきちん調べてみたらいい。Yahoo! MusicからSansa Connectに曲がダウンロードされるたびにレーベルもアーティストもきちんと支払いを受けているが、iPodの中に入ってるのは金を払わないで手にいれたMP3ファイルばかりだというのは誰でも知っている 。Yahoo!は音楽ビジネスの健全性を維持する手助けをしている。レーベルとアーティストに消費者から公正な料金を支払わせている。レーベルと消費者の立場は残念ながら相当かけ離れているので、Yahoo!としては両者の利害の間で難しいバランスを探りながら、Sansa Connectの豊富な機能とYahoo! Music Unlimitedの膨大な楽曲の利用料を設定していると思う。ユーザーもそう考えてくれるように望みたい。解決策を提示できないなら悪事に加担しているのと同じだ。違うかね？(強調はTechCruchによる)。Ian、iPodsの音楽は普通 (「ときどき」かそれれとも「たいてい」かは分からないが) 購入されたCDからまったく合法的にリップされたものだ。アーティストは、特にレーベルはすでに一度この楽曲に関して支払いを受けている。私がそれをiPod上でも聞きたいと思ったからといって私が著作権泥棒ということにはならない。消費者は同じ楽曲を別のデバイスで聞きたいと思うたびに、繰り返し、繰り返し、繰り返し金を払わされることに強い不満を抱いている。それに消費者がずっとそういう目に会っていなければならい理由など考え付かない。[原文へ] Yahoo [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] YahooはSanDisk Sansa Connectという新しいwifi メディアデバイスを発表した。これはYahoo Music ( Yahoo Musicの概要とライバルとの比較（英語記事）参照)がすぐに聞けるほかにユーザーのFlickrアカウントとも同期する。これでYahooは Appleのますます拡張を続けるiPod帝国やMicrosoftのZuneミュージック (そして近く始まる携帯)デバイスに対抗できる足がかりを得た。Sansa Connectは価格250ドルで4 GBのメモリと2.2インチの(小さい) スクリーンがついてくる。定額購読契約で無期限に毎月15ドルを払い続ける気のあるユーザーなら、膨大なライブラリを聞けるのでこういうデバイスを好むかもしれない。100万曲以上あるYahooの全音楽コレクションをポータブルなデバイスで聞けるというのは確かに魅力がある。しかしDRMの壁が崩れ落ちつつある現在、多くのユーザーにとって制約なしに楽曲を所有できるほうが、定額購読を続けるというアプローチより魅力だろう。YahooのIan Rogers(私のIan Rogersインタビューはここに)はダウンロード販売を比較してYahooの定額プランとこのデバイスの優位を売り込んでいた。Ianはこのインタビューの最後に「iPodのユーザーが持っているのは違法な海賊版の楽曲ばかりだ」という、いささかがっかりさせるような発言をした。ほとんど無限の曲が聞ける代償に月12ドルを払うことに文句があるヤツがいる（スティーブ・ジョブズとか）ようだが、バカを言ってないで自分の頭をきちん調べてみたらいい。Yahoo! MusicからSansa Connectに曲がダウンロードされるたびにレーベルもアーティストもきちんと支払いを受けているが、iPodの中に入ってるのは金を払わないで手にいれたMP3ファイルばかりだというのは誰でも知っている 。Yahoo!は音楽ビジネスの健全性を維持する手助けをしている。レーベルとアーティストに消費者から公正な料金を支払わせている。レーベルと消費者の立場は残念ながら相当かけ離れているので、Yahoo!としては両者の利害の間で難しいバランスを探りながら、Sansa Connectの豊富な機能とYahoo! Music Unlimitedの膨大な楽曲の利用料を設定していると思う。ユーザーもそう考えてくれるように望みたい。解決策を提示できないなら悪事に加担しているのと同じだ。違うかね？(強調はTechCruchによる)。Ian、iPodsの音楽は普通 (「ときどき」かそれれとも「たいてい」かは分からないが) 購入されたCDからまったく合法的にリップされたものだ。アーティストは、特にレーベルはすでに一度この楽曲に関して支払いを受けている。私がそれをiPod上でも聞きたいと思ったからといって私が著作権泥棒ということにはならない。消費者は同じ楽曲を別のデバイスで聞きたいと思うたびに、繰り返し、繰り返し、繰り返し金を払わされることに強い不満を抱いている。それに消費者がずっとそういう目に会っていなければならい理由など考え付かない。[原文へ] Yahoo [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Yahoo?s New Media Device&#160;&#187;&#160;TechAddress</title>
		<link>http://www.talkcrunch.com/2007/01/10/talk-with-yahoo-music-execs-on-the-fate-of-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-3099</link>
		<dc:creator>Yahoo?s New Media Device&#160;&#187;&#160;TechAddress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 08:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yahoo&#8217;s Ian Rogers (listen to my interview with Ian Rogers here) is touting the device and the Yahoo subscription plan v. downloadable music. He does make one off-putting remark at the end of his post when he suggests that iPod users only have pirated music on their iPods: For those of you about to complain about the $12/month to get unlimited tracks (like, um, Steve Jobs), check yourself before you riggity wreck yourself. Labels and artists get paid for every radio play and every Yahoo! Music download to the Sansa Connect, whereas we all know iPods are mostly full of not-paid-for MP3s. At Yahoo! would like to help maintain a healthy music business, compensating labels and artists at a fair price to consumers. The labels and the consumers have been pretty far apart in this negotiation and we think we’re doing a damn fine job striking a balance between the two with the rich feature set Sansa Connect and reasonable monthly price of Yahoo! Music Unlimited. We hope you think so, too. If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem, right? (emphasis added) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yahoo&#8217;s Ian Rogers (listen to my interview with Ian Rogers here) is touting the device and the Yahoo subscription plan v. downloadable music. He does make one off-putting remark at the end of his post when he suggests that iPod users only have pirated music on their iPods: For those of you about to complain about the $12/month to get unlimited tracks (like, um, Steve Jobs), check yourself before you riggity wreck yourself. Labels and artists get paid for every radio play and every Yahoo! Music download to the Sansa Connect, whereas we all know iPods are mostly full of not-paid-for MP3s. At Yahoo! would like to help maintain a healthy music business, compensating labels and artists at a fair price to consumers. The labels and the consumers have been pretty far apart in this negotiation and we think we’re doing a damn fine job striking a balance between the two with the rich feature set Sansa Connect and reasonable monthly price of Yahoo! Music Unlimited. We hope you think so, too. If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem, right? (emphasis added) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Yahoo&#8217;s New Media Device</title>
		<link>http://www.talkcrunch.com/2007/01/10/talk-with-yahoo-music-execs-on-the-fate-of-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-3098</link>
		<dc:creator>Yahoo&#8217;s New Media Device</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 07:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yahoo&#8217;s Ian Rogers (listen to my interview with Ian Rogers here) is touting the device and the Yahoo subscription plan v. downloadable music. He does make one off-putting remark at the end of his post when he suggests that iPod users only have pirated music on their iPods: For those of you about to complain about the $12/month to get unlimited tracks (like, um, Steve Jobs), check yourself before you riggity wreck yourself. Labels and artists get paid for every radio play and every Yahoo! Music download to the Sansa Connect, whereas we all know iPods are mostly full of not-paid-for MP3s. At Yahoo! would like to help maintain a healthy music business, compensating labels and artists at a fair price to consumers. The labels and the consumers have been pretty far apart in this negotiation and we think we’re doing a damn fine job striking a balance between the two with the rich feature set Sansa Connect and reasonable monthly price of Yahoo! Music Unlimited. We hope you think so, too. If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem, right? (emphasis added) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yahoo&#8217;s Ian Rogers (listen to my interview with Ian Rogers here) is touting the device and the Yahoo subscription plan v. downloadable music. He does make one off-putting remark at the end of his post when he suggests that iPod users only have pirated music on their iPods: For those of you about to complain about the $12/month to get unlimited tracks (like, um, Steve Jobs), check yourself before you riggity wreck yourself. Labels and artists get paid for every radio play and every Yahoo! Music download to the Sansa Connect, whereas we all know iPods are mostly full of not-paid-for MP3s. At Yahoo! would like to help maintain a healthy music business, compensating labels and artists at a fair price to consumers. The labels and the consumers have been pretty far apart in this negotiation and we think we’re doing a damn fine job striking a balance between the two with the rich feature set Sansa Connect and reasonable monthly price of Yahoo! Music Unlimited. We hope you think so, too. If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem, right? (emphasis added) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Death of DRM? - graysky</title>
		<link>http://www.talkcrunch.com/2007/01/10/talk-with-yahoo-music-execs-on-the-fate-of-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-3077</link>
		<dc:creator>The Death of DRM? - graysky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The new pricing scheme reminds me of a conversation on TalkCrunch with Yahoo Music Execs about DRM when they quoted similar numbers about consumers vastly preferring non-DRM to DRM. They stated that it is viewed as a tax, and estimated that there would need to be a 15-20% price difference to reach equilibrium between the two options. (They also had some good insights on how it is often not the labels themselves that want DRM, but their corporate parents.) Looks like EMI is starting higher on singles, but offering better encodings (at 256kbps) as well. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The new pricing scheme reminds me of a conversation on TalkCrunch with Yahoo Music Execs about DRM when they quoted similar numbers about consumers vastly preferring non-DRM to DRM. They stated that it is viewed as a tax, and estimated that there would need to be a 15-20% price difference to reach equilibrium between the two options. (They also had some good insights on how it is often not the labels themselves that want DRM, but their corporate parents.) Looks like EMI is starting higher on singles, but offering better encodings (at 256kbps) as well. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; Launchの幹部らがYahooを退社、売却の噂も</title>
		<link>http://www.talkcrunch.com/2007/01/10/talk-with-yahoo-music-execs-on-the-fate-of-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-2326</link>
		<dc:creator>TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; Launchの幹部らがYahooを退社、売却の噂も</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 00:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yahoo! MusicのGMとして、David Goldbergは音楽DRMを批判するリーダーの1人だった。Yahoo!は数々のDRMフリーのダウンロードを試行しており、GoldbergはDRMが業界から消えていくだろうと語っていた。GoldbergとYahoo Musicの製品開発担当VPのIan Rogersは、TalkCrunchでのMichael Arringtonの直近のゲストだった。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yahoo! MusicのGMとして、David Goldbergは音楽DRMを批判するリーダーの1人だった。Yahoo!は数々のDRMフリーのダウンロードを試行しており、GoldbergはDRMが業界から消えていくだろうと語っていた。GoldbergとYahoo Musicの製品開発担当VPのIan Rogersは、TalkCrunchでのMichael Arringtonの直近のゲストだった。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Launch Execs Leave Yahoo, Rumor of Sale</title>
		<link>http://www.talkcrunch.com/2007/01/10/talk-with-yahoo-music-execs-on-the-fate-of-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-2324</link>
		<dc:creator>Launch Execs Leave Yahoo, Rumor of Sale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As GM of Yahoo! Music, David Goldberg has been one of the leading critics of DRM in music.  Yahoo! has experimented with a number of DRM free downloads and Goldberg has said that DRM was on its way out industry wide.  Goldberg and Yahoo Music VP of Product Development Ian Rogers were Michael Arrington&#8217;s most recent guests on TalkCrunch. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As GM of Yahoo! Music, David Goldberg has been one of the leading critics of DRM in music.  Yahoo! has experimented with a number of DRM free downloads and Goldberg has said that DRM was on its way out industry wide.  Goldberg and Yahoo Music VP of Product Development Ian Rogers were Michael Arrington&#8217;s most recent guests on TalkCrunch. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Death to DRM! at Ryan Esaki - Commentary on things of Interest</title>
		<link>http://www.talkcrunch.com/2007/01/10/talk-with-yahoo-music-execs-on-the-fate-of-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-1940</link>
		<dc:creator>Death to DRM! at Ryan Esaki - Commentary on things of Interest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you have time I highly recommend giving the episode a listen. Highly highly interesting and informative. I thoroughly enjoyed it and now eagerly awaiting the next episode whatever it may be. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If you have time I highly recommend giving the episode a listen. Highly highly interesting and informative. I thoroughly enjoyed it and now eagerly awaiting the next episode whatever it may be. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JasonM</title>
		<link>http://www.talkcrunch.com/2007/01/10/talk-with-yahoo-music-execs-on-the-fate-of-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-1914</link>
		<dc:creator>JasonM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes it interesting when some of the big players even hint at breaking ranks with DRM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes it interesting when some of the big players even hint at breaking ranks with DRM.</p>
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		<title>By: RT</title>
		<link>http://www.talkcrunch.com/2007/01/10/talk-with-yahoo-music-execs-on-the-fate-of-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-1882</link>
		<dc:creator>RT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MA,

Hey what is the name of the application you use for your podcast player?  I&#039;ve been looking for one just like it.  Thx.  art</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MA,</p>
<p>Hey what is the name of the application you use for your podcast player?  I&#8217;ve been looking for one just like it.  Thx.  art</p>
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		<title>By: vrypan&#124;net&#124;weblog &#187; Το μέλλον του DRM</title>
		<link>http://www.talkcrunch.com/2007/01/10/talk-with-yahoo-music-execs-on-the-fate-of-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-1773</link>
		<dc:creator>vrypan&#124;net&#124;weblog &#187; Το μέλλον του DRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 10:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.talkcrunch.com/2007/01/10/talk-with-yahoo-music-execs-on-the-fate-of-drm/#comment-1773</guid>
		<description>[...] Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL.    &#171; Τηλεοπτική ή διαδικτυακή δημοκρατία; (ΚυριάκοςΜητσοτάκης) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL.    &laquo; Τηλεοπτική ή διαδικτυακή δημοκρατία; (ΚυριάκοςΜητσοτάκης) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Krupman</title>
		<link>http://www.talkcrunch.com/2007/01/10/talk-with-yahoo-music-execs-on-the-fate-of-drm/comment-page-1/#comment-1762</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Krupman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[apologies, this was mis-posted to techcrunch article accidentally]


Wow, the timing of this interview is a bummer.
It will be very interesting to hear what Goldberg has to say now, after the announcement of the &quot;jesusphone&quot;
It &quot;should&quot; be possible to stream Yahoo music to the new iphone (too bad it&#039;s on Cingular/Edge)
The big question is whether or not it will be possible to play WMA-DRM&#039;d tracks (anybody know if it is currently possible on a Mac? could Apple block this?)  Did Goldberg already get wind of what Apple was up to?  Is that what he was coyly alluding to near the end of the podcast?

I suspect that Yahoo arguing against DRM is a red herring.
The subtext of the whole interview is that itunes owns the market and any other player&#039;s (including Yahoo) only shot of making it in the space is if the studios drop DRM.

I don&#039;t doubt that Goldberg is sincere when he argues that dropping DRM is in the Studios&#039; best interest (ceteris paribus), but even better for the Studios would be if Apple launched a subscription service (perhaps Yahoo is trying to get out in front of that)

My suggestion- One of the big subscription services should just give a bunch of drm ONLY players away and/or charge 1cent per play w/a $15/month cap (not sure if this is yet possible w/current state of DRM).  This is also premised on the major assumption that limiting to just one player would overcome many of the technical problems that Yahoo bemoans regarding handling DRM (seems to be working for Apple).

Disclaimer: I tried to get a PM job at Yahoo Launch 2 years ago and was rebuffed (still not over it), but I honestly think Goldberg has been the smartest guy in this space since day one (Jobs was just lucky that his competition is so slow and sucks so bad)</description>
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<p>Wow, the timing of this interview is a bummer.<br />
It will be very interesting to hear what Goldberg has to say now, after the announcement of the &#8220;jesusphone&#8221;<br />
It &#8220;should&#8221; be possible to stream Yahoo music to the new iphone (too bad it&#8217;s on Cingular/Edge)<br />
The big question is whether or not it will be possible to play WMA-DRM&#8217;d tracks (anybody know if it is currently possible on a Mac? could Apple block this?)  Did Goldberg already get wind of what Apple was up to?  Is that what he was coyly alluding to near the end of the podcast?</p>
<p>I suspect that Yahoo arguing against DRM is a red herring.<br />
The subtext of the whole interview is that itunes owns the market and any other player&#8217;s (including Yahoo) only shot of making it in the space is if the studios drop DRM.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t doubt that Goldberg is sincere when he argues that dropping DRM is in the Studios&#8217; best interest (ceteris paribus), but even better for the Studios would be if Apple launched a subscription service (perhaps Yahoo is trying to get out in front of that)</p>
<p>My suggestion- One of the big subscription services should just give a bunch of drm ONLY players away and/or charge 1cent per play w/a $15/month cap (not sure if this is yet possible w/current state of DRM).  This is also premised on the major assumption that limiting to just one player would overcome many of the technical problems that Yahoo bemoans regarding handling DRM (seems to be working for Apple).</p>
<p>Disclaimer: I tried to get a PM job at Yahoo Launch 2 years ago and was rebuffed (still not over it), but I honestly think Goldberg has been the smartest guy in this space since day one (Jobs was just lucky that his competition is so slow and sucks so bad)</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Bauer&#8217;s Blog &#187; The Anti-DRM Movement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Bauer&#8217;s Blog &#187; The Anti-DRM Movement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FISTFULAYEN &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dave Goldberg on going DRM-Free on TalkCrunch</title>
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		<dc:creator>FISTFULAYEN &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dave Goldberg on going DRM-Free on TalkCrunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As promised in last week&#8217;s post, here&#8217;s the podcast of Dave talking to Michael Arrington of TechCrunch on TalkCrunch. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; DRMの死は不可避だ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TechCrunch Japanese アーカイブ &#187; DRMの死は不可避だ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 私はYahoo Musicのゼネラルマネージャー、David Goldbergと製品開発担当VP、Ian RogersにDRMの将来について、Goldbergの１年前の発言（上を参照）をぶつけて、考えを聞いた。この様子は40分のポッドキャストとしてTalkCrunchに掲載されている。彼らはDRMの廃止は不可避だという意見には同意しなかったが、近い将来どんなことが起こりそうかという点については音楽業界のインサイダーとして貴重な意見を提供してくれた。Goldbergの面白い予測のひとつは、今後「DRM付き」と「DRMなし」の楽曲が同時に販売されるようになる―DRM付きはディスカウント価格で提供される、というものだ。私は違法コピー曲、あるいはグレーゾーンの曲が広く簡単に手に入る以上、そういったマーケットが成長できるとは思えないのだが、今後に注目したい。また彼らは定額制音楽購入サービスの人気が高まるだろうと予測した。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 私はYahoo Musicのゼネラルマネージャー、David Goldbergと製品開発担当VP、Ian RogersにDRMの将来について、Goldbergの１年前の発言（上を参照）をぶつけて、考えを聞いた。この様子は40分のポッドキャストとしてTalkCrunchに掲載されている。彼らはDRMの廃止は不可避だという意見には同意しなかったが、近い将来どんなことが起こりそうかという点については音楽業界のインサイダーとして貴重な意見を提供してくれた。Goldbergの面白い予測のひとつは、今後「DRM付き」と「DRMなし」の楽曲が同時に販売されるようになる―DRM付きはディスカウント価格で提供される、というものだ。私は違法コピー曲、あるいはグレーゾーンの曲が広く簡単に手に入る以上、そういったマーケットが成長できるとは思えないのだが、今後に注目したい。また彼らは定額制音楽購入サービスの人気が高まるだろうと予測した。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Inevitable Death of DRM</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Inevitable Death of DRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I spoke with Yahoo Music GM David Goldberg and VP Product Development Ian Rogers last week about their views on the future of DRM, given Goldberg&#8217;s comments about DRM a year ago (see above). The forty minute podcast is up at TalkCrunch. While they don&#8217;t quite agree that DRM&#8217;s demise is inevitable, they do have valuable insights as music insiders as to what may happen in the short term. One interesting prediction that Goldberg made is that we might see DRM and DRM-free tracks being sold side by side, with DRM music sold at a discount. I think that the general availability of illegal and quasi-legal alternatives may not allow that market to develop, but we&#8217;ll see. They also predict the rise of music subscription services. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I spoke with Yahoo Music GM David Goldberg and VP Product Development Ian Rogers last week about their views on the future of DRM, given Goldberg&#8217;s comments about DRM a year ago (see above). The forty minute podcast is up at TalkCrunch. While they don&#8217;t quite agree that DRM&#8217;s demise is inevitable, they do have valuable insights as music insiders as to what may happen in the short term. One interesting prediction that Goldberg made is that we might see DRM and DRM-free tracks being sold side by side, with DRM music sold at a discount. I think that the general availability of illegal and quasi-legal alternatives may not allow that market to develop, but we&#8217;ll see. They also predict the rise of music subscription services. [...]</p>
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